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What a weekend for live sports.
If we could just make that happen in
San Jose.
what is going on everybody welcome to
sunday sunday sunday night crossfit talk
we are here live after a weekend of
unbelievable football games it started
thursday night in college with miami and
old miss and the only game that wasn't
close was indiana and oregon everything
else this weekend has come down to the
last two minutes of the game my heart
can't take anymore
Yeah, it's crazy.
So, Carolyn sporting the Niners shirt,
the Christian McCaffrey jersey,
and that game just ended with the Niners
on a defensive hold,
which just like the Bears had to do
a defensive hold last night,
that is the last team I want on
the field to close out the game.
The Bears defense or the Niners defense
are both not good.
Their offenses are really good.
And the fact that they had to put
their lesser of the three teams out there
to do that,
my heart was beaten out of my chest
last night.
Julian Iford says, congratulations.
The Bears are awesome.
I did not sleep last night.
You're too ramped up or what?
The game didn't end until what?
Eleven thirty Eastern time.
And then I watched the prime post game.
Then I have my little podcast crew in
Chicago that does a post game for every
every game.
So I tune over to them.
They're doing shots on the set because
they cannot believe that the Bears won.
And they won a playoff game.
Two thousand and ten.
It was the two thousand ten season.
It actually happened in two thousand
eleven.
But yeah, long time ago.
And yeah,
so I was up until two to thirty
in the morning watching all the stuff.
And then and then I got up early
to watch the pregame stuff to see what
they said about the game last night.
And then I fell asleep for a couple
hours on the couch today.
Jeez, oh, Pete.
You don't need that in your life right
now.
Bang, bang, not the gang.
I don't know.
We're the gang.
Same gang.
The gang's all here.
Drew went to bed crying.
I don't know who he roots for.
Yeah, who is he rooting for?
Sad tears.
Mark Phillips,
that final drive was butt clenching for
sure.
Valenz, glad the Packers are out.
Yeah.
I guess Drew was a Packers fan.
I'm so sad.
What a game.
What a game.
Anyway, they all were good.
Even the Carolina Panthers,
who don't even have a winning record,
took the Rams to the last two minutes.
Yeah.
Like online,
at first they were getting like,
Beat up.
And then they were like,
why are they inviting teams that are under
five hundred in the playoffs?
This is dumb.
And then they just kept chipping away.
And all of a sudden it was like
such a closed game.
And yeah, all of them.
So it's been good.
They won their division.
Yeah.
If you win your division,
you've got to get in.
Right.
Because that's the majority of the games
you play.
And so if you beat up that,
I don't know.
CrossFit says Niners without Kittle cook
next round.
That looked bad.
I saw Hiller just put out a members
only video about the rise in Achilles
injuries.
Oh.
In like all sports.
So I'm curious what he has.
I haven't watched it.
It literally popped up like two minutes
before we went on air.
So I'm curious what he has to say.
Cause I've wondered that like when I was
a kid,
nobody popped their Achilles and now it's
like everywhere in all sports.
Do you think it's, well, I don't know,
maybe the, the turf, the,
then it's in basketball, a lot,
the volume of reps that people are getting
versus before as like training has gone
better.
They're, they're, I don't know.
And they're able to take on more volume
maybe than before.
playing all year round specializing in
their sports I don't know but there was
there's a lot of Achilles injuries it's
crazy do you want to know what my
true thought is yes I think it's steroids
I think it's performance enhancing drugs
that are making the muscles too big for
the tendons
I think you're growing,
the tendons don't grow with performance
enhancing drugs and the ligaments don't
grow.
And then you're growing the muscles and
they get supported by the ligaments and
tendons.
I'm very curious if Hiller goes in that
route.
Yeah, I don't.
That has been my thought as this is
going on, and I've been waiting for, like,
an ESPN.
Yeah.
Or one of those, like, exposés.
But they'll never say that it's that
because all of these players are supposed
to be.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But it's a big deal when someone tests
positive in CrossFit, right?
But if you test positive in football,
I don't even know if people can name
who tested positive this year.
Because you sit out four games,
you come back,
and nobody even thinks twice about it.
Yeah.
I have thought that for probably a decade
that with the rise in performance
enhancing drugs,
you saw a rise in more soft tissue
injuries and more like Achilles injuries.
I don't know.
I mean, yeah,
that's an interesting theory.
I don't like.
I wouldn't know how prevalent,
like how prevalent were steroids use in
like eighties, nineties.
I mean,
I would think like with the rise of
like Arnold baseball, it was huge.
Right.
So like why it's.
But look at the baseball injuries,
the UCLs, the, you know, you're,
everybody's getting the Tommy John
surgery.
Like almost every pitcher now gets the
Tommy John surgery,
the knee ligaments that go out now.
The steroids they were using in the
seventies and stuff like that just made
you like strong, but slow.
Right.
It's only been in recent years that like
they've fine tuned them to do more than
just build muscle to be strong.
Now it can make you faster.
It can make like,
and the training is different.
Now the, the,
the science behind training has gone up.
So you add all that into your,
into account i think it just really puts
some wear and tear on those ligaments and
tendons and they because they're
non-contact injuries that are happening
now right if someone tears an acl in
the nfl they're just running down the
field and boop yeah i yeah i agree
kids start earlier put more
mileage on their bodies.
Um,
but in a way that almost thinks makes
me think that that would give them more
training volume and like tendons would
catch up to that growth.
So that kind of contradicts that for me.
So I don't know.
How do you,
how do you work a tendon?
Well,
if you don't build the muscle too quickly,
like if you were training since a little
kid and grew that over time,
you would think that you built that up
properly.
over time so I don't know to me
it's yeah I think I think that I
think it's more than just one thing
Right.
There's people in here saying there's a
theory that the Niners practice near an
electrical plant or electrical grid,
and that is leading to the injuries.
I think that all of these parents that
make their kids do travel teams at five,
six, seven, eight is too much.
They should be having fun and playing
multiple sports,
not focusing on one thing at such a
young age.
I think it's all of those things combined.
But I do think that the performance
enhancing drugs is a major contributor.
I can get on board with that.
Ken Walters, there's a person close to me,
my son,
told me it's all over the AHL and
NHL.
If you want,
you can get it right from.
See,
I don't feel like it's in hockey that
much.
I feel like hockey is such a skilled
sport.
Like,
I don't know how much of an advantage
that would be.
It's not even that physical anymore
compared to what it used to be.
I don't see it in a hockey that
much.
I've watched too many sports to be too
naive that if there's a sport where people
are getting paid and it's competitive,
they're going to look for an advantage.
Yep.
It's just going to happen.
At what percentage?
Where I would see it would be injuries
and trying to come back faster from
injuries.
And right now what's the big thing is
like the peptide stuff.
Yeah.
Like I could see that for like recovery
purposes of athletes,
but in hockey steroids, I don't know.
I don't buy that.
I don't think steroid.
I think it's performance-enhancing drugs.
And I think it starts with recovery.
Someone gets injured.
They want to get back on the ice
faster.
And then it's like the gateway drug into
more, well, this worked.
And now there's this, right?
And now there's this.
So I think it's, I don't,
that's my opinion.
And Carolyn,
you're totally entitled to yours.
You've actually lived that world more than
I have, but I just, you know,
I was a believer in Lance Armstrong and
I got let down.
And I was a believer in all these
people in my life of watching sports and
they all let me down.
And so I just go into it now
where
It's everywhere.
And just face the facts.
You can't trust that anybody is not using
it.
And so I just assume they are and
hope that they're not.
Yeah.
Liver King.
Ken Walters, Carolyn,
he's been in eight different locker rooms
and has friends on every team then and
now.
I mean, me too.
Like I,
I'm not in the men's locker room.
I haven't been, but like the,
like I have a lot of friends that
played play and played in the NHL and
then on the woman's side as well.
Like, I don't know.
It was never, never really.
The male ego says if some is good,
more is better.
Also true.
I don't have this on the rundown,
but since we jumped into this and we
didn't plan on it,
if you watched Hiller's Hot Takes this
week,
one of them was about that more female
athletes are using performance enhancing
drugs because it only takes one use and
then it doesn't go away.
So women are learning that they just have
to use it one time and then get
off of it and then they can pass
every test forever and it never goes away.
I believe that wholeheartedly.
I think if when you learn that if
you can get away with it for one
cycle and the benefits will be forever.
I think it's as prevalent with the males
though.
Yeah,
but the men might not notice the
difference as much,
but I don't know that I would say
that it'd be more on the woman's side.
Well,
what he's saying is that the chemistry in
a, in a male body,
because they use the testosterone more,
you have to keep giving it to them,
right?
They have to keep taking it and keep
taking it where a woman takes one time,
one cycle,
and it stays in their system for as
long as their competitive career is there.
I would argue probably more men have been
on it in the past.
And now the women are like kept equal.
It also is maybe what he's like.
They've realized that then.
Well,
and I guess maybe that means it's less
because at any given time,
there's way fewer women taking it because
once they've taken it once.
They're not taking it again.
Right.
So at any given time,
there's probably way fewer women taking
it.
Doesn't mean that eighty percent of the
women in the sport haven't taken it at
some in the last ten years.
Now,
I've seen women in the sport that they've
done way more than one cycle.
So smart about it.
Right.
Very much.
But there are definitely people I've seen
at competitions and in person that I damn
well know there's more than one cycle that
have gone through that body.
Yeah.
But anyway, Oh boy.
All right.
Um,
So that's that.
We had fun football weekend.
I got tons of texts from everybody.
Thank you so much for sending out the
congratulations for my Bears.
It really did mean a lot that we've
created this little community that people
know I'm a Bears fan.
People are sending me well wishes and
stuff.
So there it is.
Did you see the MSU Ohio State hockey
this weekend?
I was fall football all the time.
Yeah.
MSU one Friday and then Ohio state one
yesterday.
So they split.
Um,
I see someone added something to the
agenda here.
Uh, the pit season two started this week.
Did it?
Is that, was that you?
Was it Lex?
Maybe Lex.
She also messaged me earlier about Mode
Classic as well.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe it was Lex.
I watched Pitt season two today.
Did you?
I had the Niners-Eagles games on one TV
and Pitt on the other.
Gosh, it started off with a bang.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it left on a bang.
I can't even imagine.
Well, if you remember last season,
like the ending actually calmed down.
Like they were done with the big shooting
and getting through all that.
And they were all kind of in the
park just decompressing.
That's kind of how it ended.
And this one, it's the Fourth of July,
seven a.m.
They're reporting for work.
And some of the doctors have moved up
a step in the
So it's like five or six months later.
Okay.
And it already is off and rolling.
I'll have to watch it when we get
off this.
I got to catch up.
It's only one episode right now.
Okay.
But it's just like the last time.
Each episode is one hour of the day.
And away they went.
Bob Ross, yes, we can hear you.
From the great beyond with your happy
little trees.
Okay.
Carol,
did you get in a tilly in your
hockey days?
Do you know what that means?
Not a clue.
What would be your guess?
A fight?
Yeah.
I fought.
So I used to play boys hockey up
until fourteen.
I fought once before.
on the boy's side, on the boy's side,
not on the girl's side.
And I won pretty easily.
I had to throw that humble brag in.
Well, the ref,
the ref like winked at me when I
was in the box.
Like he was like happy for me.
So is it like in young blood,
they teach you like to grab the Jersey,
pull it over the head to tie them
up and boom, boom, boom.
Or did you just start swinging?
Well,
the guy was trying to provoke me to
get because the playoffs were coming up.
And at that point,
like I was the top player on the
team.
I was like that I was on and
they're trying to get me kicked out.
So I had to defend myself.
I didn't start it.
But I just started just punching him super
fast.
And then he fell and I just continued.
This is what I love about Carolyn.
I was training boxing.
I was doing Taekwondo at the time,
but I never fought in boxing,
but I trained boxing just to stay in
shape.
So it was so slow to me.
I understand all that.
I understand that.
But this is what I love about your
stories.
Well,
they were trying to get me kicked out
because I was the best player on the
team.
it's a hundred percent boys team.
Like she is letting it know that I
was the shit back in the day.
I mean, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like, Oh,
I was like, Oh, I was like,
Oh
like back to the woman's game,
unless sometimes certain positions can
stay longer,
like if you're a goalie and stuff like
that.
But, yeah,
we just developed faster at first.
Yeah.
So I was able to hang for some
years.
Yeah.
Bob Ross.
It was fun.
It was a fun fight.
Fergie says,
Carolyn has a perfectly straight nose,
which tells me she won her tilly.
Ken is you want to get their jersey
up over their head to lock their arms
down.
That's why you will see the guys take
their jerseys off before the fight as it's
getting pulled up.
Yeah.
Yank on it.
When I lived in Florida,
Julie and I were season ticket holders to
a minor league hockey team down there.
And there are way more fights in minor
league hockey than there are in like the
NHL.
Did you see – it's been all over
the internet.
These young little kids.
I don't know if it was like –
you know,
it looked like it was between the periods.
You know how they have like little teams
playing?
It looked like one of those little kids.
And everyone is out fighting,
and there was no adults at all,
no referees.
This goalie comes from the other side and
just skates as hard as he can and
just nails a little kid.
And it was like all over,
and I was like,
this is –
stupid.
Yeah,
it was like all over today and yet
or yesterday, like Instagram.
But the only thing about Instagram now
that I hate is you can't tell if
it's real or AI.
agree there's an ai version of um ben
johnson's handshake with matt lafleur and
now it was a blow by handshake he
they do not like each other it was
quick but there's an there's an ai version
where he stops and does like a karate
kick to matt lafleur's face but i i
wish that there was a rule that if
ai is used like there has to be
something that's written that it's ai
You're supposed to.
If you post something on Instagram and
it's AI, you're supposed to say it.
Just like YouTube.
We're doing this now.
I get asked every time I post a
video, is there AI included?
I swear they've taken regular clips and
added the Sora image just to make people
think it is AI when it wasn't.
Yeah, Sora watermarks it.
But I'm telling you,
I think they're taking actual videos and
adding the watermark.
Just so that, like,
you can't trust anything.
Well,
I wanted to get this next thing set
up,
but I didn't have time because I was
scrambling to get a thumbnail done.
And hopefully it's still on my story.
But I had reposted something that Carolyn
posted.
and it's gone of course uh you were
being an athlete again doing these
one-legged hops for for i don't know how
what was the distance you were doing them
was there a goal with each one of
the one-legged hops and why do you mix
that into your crossfit training is it for
variety or enjoyment or what
Normally every Saturday I try to do like
in my accessory plyometric stuff.
So like I'll have something written and
then sometimes I just go off course.
And if I'm like in the zone of
doing, working on something,
I'll just start.
adding other things to it or changing it
up um but it's just so i at
least keep up weekly some sort of jumping
or lateral work of anything really um yeah
i like i like that type of training
I did a piece this week on launch
that I think athletic movements are
missing from CrossFit.
And I think we used to have those
and people can make fun of the softball
throw and the broad jump and all those
things,
but it brought some form of athleticism to
the CrossFit games back in the early days.
And I think we've gone,
and especially with it being outside,
it added more athleticism.
There were more sprints.
There were, even when you had the zigzag,
the zigzag sprints, right?
We've gotten rid of all of that.
And the more it moves inside,
the more we lose all of that aspect
of it all.
Yeah,
because we test running at the games,
mid-distance, long-distance.
And we assume that a lot of these
athletes that are bad runners are horrible
runners.
But if you actually tested a sprint event,
we'd be saying a lot of bad sprinters
out there.
It's the same thing.
I'm not a bad runner.
I'm just a good sprinter,
which makes me not good for endurance.
But we just never test it.
Like a pure sprint.
Yeah.
We haven't rode a real bike since we
left Madison either.
Yeah.
Hunting cardio bunnies.
Larry says rumor rich might help program
the open.
So great.
Please happen.
Not same as last couple of years, please.
And thank you for the four ninety nine.
Larry, we appreciate that.
Yeah, I don't know.
i'm okay with other people programming the
open as long as they are true to
what crossfit is yeah it's just got to
be the right tests to it's got to
be community inclusive i i think and i
get that people are like oh it's it's
too easy it filters down properly it moves
along
to the next stage.
Um, I, I would,
I would like to think rich wouldn't put
a lift in.
So, I mean,
that gives me some peace of mind there.
Yeah.
I, I would hope so too.
I, I think in a three week open,
you just cannot do a lift.
Right.
Um, but what I,
what I miss is what I miss is
like,
you earning your way into like a higher
skill movement.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see one
of those regard,
like regardless if it's Dave or may have
the right muscle up at the end or
the heavy lift progression with the
certain gymnastics or metabolic piece to
at least,
or the time gated workouts three minutes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just, I, I, I miss that.
Cause even like my,
I think my first ever open,
there were muscle ups at the end.
It was like thirteen, thirteen, four,
thirteen,
where it started off with Karen and then
you had the ninety double unders and then,
and then muscle ups.
That was the one that Kristen Clever did
with
feel like the the demo of that one
was or the face off of that one
was clever and someone else yeah i um
i just missed those where you could you
got to earn your way to those stages
right or yeah no i agree those are
good
I feel like they've done a pretty good
job of workouts like that.
There's been lots of workouts over the
last few years that have gone progressive
gymnastics.
We've gone from toe-to-bar to chest-to-bar
to bar muscle-up.
We haven't seen the time-gated workouts.
Last year's Open had the... Yes.
I think they've had some pretty good
workouts like that.
I think it was Fouché that did that.
Yeah, it might have been.
He also says,
nothing feels like accomplishment in the
recent Open.
And I do think like the first couple
workouts of the Open should be very open
to the community.
And I'm okay with like even the beginning
of the third one being open to the
community,
but like a gateway to other things.
Do you think we see four tests this
year?
A part two that's not necessarily a lift?
I don't.
I think they're looking at quarterfinals
this week, four and five,
combined into one thing.
What I'd really like to see is what
we talked about,
where the Open carries over to
quarterfinals,
and then you have a seven-event test that
gets you to semifinals.
Because it's a more complete picture.
But we've talked, I mean,
we have hammered that horse to death for
sure.
And like,
that's the thing about the WFP that I
like that every test matters.
It's just the way that it's programmed
wasn't right.
But the idea of all events working
together for like a full leaderboard to me
makes sense as like finding the fittest of
the year versus the fittest of a weekend
on those tests.
Sorry, I was just looking down.
Kyle Shanahan just confirmed that George
Kittle did tear his Achilles.
Yeah,
they confirmed it like almost right away
during the game.
Achilles injury, but they didn't say torn.
No, I read torn.
Oh, wow.
Yeah,
this just came across from Adam Schefter.
So...
With so many semis already doing their
qualifiers,
the open and quarters doesn't mean much
anymore.
Glad you brought that up because we are
going to now move into our first.
Well,
I did have one more before we do
that.
Jamie,
you're one of my best friends in the
world.
I care about you deeply.
And I know you've had this surgery.
And I know that you have been restricted
from certain things.
Yet, I go to your YouTube channel.
I go to your Instagram.
And I see you doing things that...
if i recall correctly were on that
restricted list uh from your doctor six
months ago so i just wanted to confirm
am i seeing things are those like videos
from two years ago how long has it
been six months no it has not been
six months no we're not even at four
september was when you had it done right
yeah september october november december
january five
October would be one month.
November, December,
we're not even at four.
It's almost sixteen weeks.
Yeah, Scott, you're just seeing things.
Nicole's telling me to shush.
No, I mean, I don't know what...
I mean, like I told you,
I've been doing double-unders and
toe-to-bar and pull-ups.
I've been doing pull-ups and push-ups
since two weeks after the surgery.
So other than I was box squatting.
I am not questioning your upper body
workouts.
Well, what have you seen that I've done?
Squats.
I have.
So I was doing box squats for the
last like four weeks and two weeks ago
I squatted one sixty and then last week
I squatted one eighty.
So that's as heavy as I've gotten.
I overhead squatted forty five pounds.
So that's.
We're really we're really moving there.
So I guess my question is,
is there a piece of your head that
is saying I'm going to be ready end
of February for week one of the open?
Well,
if the week one of the open is
what I think it might be, yes,
I think I will be ready.
So you're signing up.
I'll sign up.
I said, I would sign up.
I like, I mean, if there's a lift,
whatever I'm out and it's the same
quarterfinals.
Like if there's something that we have to
snatch even.
A hundred and twenty-five.
There's just no way I'll be able to
do it.
I can't even fathom trying to do a
squat snatch right now.
Like I can't, that dynamic,
there's no way I could sit down into
a quickly, um,
very slowly can i squat with some weight
yeah some not not a ton uh but
we're january like semi-finals are may i'm
just asking i'm just asking as a friend
is there a piece of your head or
a piece of your mind thinking i've got
some time to still recover and there may
be just maybe
I mean, I'll just, like I said,
we'll just go.
And if workouts come in my favor of
things that I've been working on, cool.
If, if not, then I,
then it is what it is.
And I just keep building and I'm out
sooner.
That's fine.
I don't, I,
I think there's certain things I can do.
Like I toes about her feeling just about
fine.
Um, maybe not in like,
I don't think I could go do.
Right now,
but I can certainly do sets of twenty
five.
Fairly reasonable.
Like we did eighteen point one on Friday,
the twenty minute AMRAP of.
That's eight total bar, five per side,
dumbbell clean and jerk in the row.
That was fine.
But eight total bars, nothing.
Sure.
Yeah, I'll sign up for the open.
I was never not going to sign up
for the open.
That's a support.
Yes, that's something I'm going to do.
I'll probably sign up for quarters and
we'll see.
So you are going to finish top twenty
five percent in the open because you are
very confident you're signing up for open
or for quarters.
And I'm cool with that.
I think you would make quarters.
For sure.
Yeah, I again,
even at like not one hundred percent,
I feel like you would make it.
I would like to think so.
Other barring like barring a lift in the
open and me just like not really being
able to
A lift could change a lot of the
leaderboard in the open if there's three
events.
That would skew it way too much.
I need to address this.
Tony says,
what are your thoughts about CrossFit
athlete that does full-time versus those
who have full-time jobs and train
afterwards?
Is it an advantage?
Andrew comes and says,
I don't think there are any elite
individual CrossFit athletes that have a
full-time job anymore.
There are.
The person on this
She was a CrossFit games athlete in twenty
twenty five.
She's a full time teacher.
There she is.
And Emily Rolfe is a full time
radiologist,
whatever they call that up in Canada.
And she's been a games athlete for several
years.
Yeah,
I think she like reads all the scans
or not reads them,
puts the people in the scans, I think.
Yeah.
so and i think it all depends on
the athlete
And what fits better for them?
There's some athletes that don't want to
spend all day in the gym.
They have their mission.
And I think if you ask Carolyn this,
she likes to go in,
get her stuff done, no wasted time.
Except for the weekends.
The weekends,
I am so slow to get everything done
because all of a sudden I'm not working
and I'm at the gym way too long
socializing and doing nothing for...
Two to two hours doing nothing.
And I'm like, that's what in my mind,
I'm like,
that's what the full time athletes do is
they say that they're at the gym for
eight hours,
but they're not training for eight hours.
There's no way they're just eating,
doing their social media,
talking and training here and there.
Didn't Christy Aramo coach while she was
competing?
She did.
She owned and ran her gym,
but she had a very good support team.
And when it got close to the games,
her coaching hours definitely decreased.
I'd say there's quite a few of those
kinds of people still around.
Colton has three jobs, farm pigs,
breeds wieners, and makes soap.
Man of many talents.
Yeah,
I think there's a few people at the
games that definitely have jobs or, like,
they're coaching, like,
at their affiliate at least for some hours
in the week.
Maybe not, like, full time,
but has something to do.
I think it just makes you more focused
in your training to get it done in
a certain amount of time versus, like,
more wasted time.
Tony says,
I just watched the CrossFit Games,
and it was so amazing watching them do
the run and heavy bags up the Capitol
steps.
Just awesome.
Well, thank you.
That was an awesome event.
That's my favorite event I've ever done,
I think.
And I want to say welcome to the
community, Tony,
because that's just the tip of the
iceberg.
As you dive in more,
we love having you in the chat.
We love having you as part of the
community.
Thank you for joining in and checking all
that stuff out.
We are all CrossFit geeks, just like that.
Um,
Lydia fish was also mentioned that she's
waitressing that I know they're trying to
talk her out of that.
Um, but,
but I am a firm believer after talking
to Carolyn all these years that some
people don't,
it's not good for them to have that
much time on their hands.
I think Lydia said that in her little
documentary.
I even remember like Emma Lawson at one
point saying once she was done high school
and transitioned to a full-time athlete,
that it was hard for her to just
not be like on a certain.
you know,
routine and schedule where you can just,
you know,
waste so much time at the gym,
Pat Delner.
I mean, he's,
he was doing chiropractor work like during
game season, all the time.
I think the last two years he's done
less of it, but during the off season,
he definitely goes back and does his
chiropractor stuff.
So when Brent was famously was an
accountant for Matt, much of his career,
but he did leave that.
So,
Anyway, let's get into the pencil, pen,
and Sharpie.
I did get those loaded in.
So the way it's going to work this
week is this is actually going to start
a topic.
We are going to hit the pen, pencil,
or Sharpie.
And then we have a couple of talking
points with that.
So the first one for this week.
Is pencil, pen, or Sharpie,
should the Open be the beginning of the
CrossFit Games season,
or is it okay that qualifiers are?
So the pencil, pen, or Sharpie part is,
should it be the CrossFit Games Open that
opens the season?
Sharpie.
Sharpie.
Sharpie, Sharpie.
We got a pen.
Yes, the open should be.
That's not a pencil, pen, or Sharpie,
Tristan.
Sharpie for Andrew.
Sharpie AF from Tristan.
Finally, he jumps on board, right?
Sharpie from Terry.
Bold Sharpie from Eric Mackey.
Pen from Clock Cutter.
And I'll let you guys talk first.
So why should it be the open to
the CrossFit game season?
People are just starting to get – it
was Christmas time for a lot of people
that celebrate that.
They took time with their family,
took time off of training or maybe weren't
training as much.
In January,
a lot of times when people start getting
back in the routine,
within a few days you already have
qualifiers.
You're supposed to be in somewhat shape to
qualify.
Then it seems like so far away to
the semifinal.
Last year –
or in the past years even,
NorCal was January qualifier,
and I think the comp wasn't until
September.
There's so much that can happen even
between those months of training.
I just think the Open starts the season,
and people can begin there.
From there, they can go off.
I said it to you guys after the
show.
last week i think um i think the
like people like uh qualifiers like norcal
or um what other one is going on
right now lat am whatever like i think
they should just use the open leaderboard
and then if they need to make that
money you sign up also for norcal
And Latin, whatever other one they have.
And you pay your twenty five or whatever
it is.
So they can still get their money,
but we don't have to do all these
qualifiers on top of doing the open soon.
And you just save the athletes a little
bit from doing multiple qualifiers.
And then they could review the videos
there.
I get it would be two different
leaderboards because if they penalize on
their leaderboard versus the open doesn't
look at any videos, but top five.
But still,
I just think use those workouts,
create your own leaderboard.
If you want to sign up,
if NorCal is the competition you want to
go to,
you just post your score in two
leaderboards, Open and NorCal.
Because they did it like that during the
sanctional season a few years ago.
A few of the sanctionals did it that
way.
And I thought that that was cool that
you didn't have to redo the same workouts
or like different workouts.
Yeah.
Which some, someone says here,
they're getting other people who may not
be doing this.
I know this is another question of Scott,
so it's going to kind of tie into
it,
but they're getting people who maybe
wouldn't be in the open to sign up
for their qualifier.
I want to address some comments.
I'm going to fall behind if I don't.
Okay.
And Penn,
I don't know if this matters that much
to me, but I see why people care.
Engraved in stone.
College football got weird with week zero.
Yeah.
Um,
the fact that we are doing calls right
now for a comp in the summer before
TFX has happened before open registration
is even open is just bananas to me.
Uh, Vicki says pencil.
I think it should too,
but it's only the only way qualifiers can
do it.
Um, see,
I don't think it's the only way.
Yeah.
I think they could use the open.
They could.
To be clear,
what Carolyn's saying is like,
if I know I want to sign up
for Dalmar, LATAM, and NorCal,
I would pay my twenty dollar open
registration and three more.
All ten of them or twelve of them
would be listed and I'd click open one,
two, three,
and I would submit eighty dollars.
And three of them would go to those
respective.
And if
two,
three hundred people did that in each of
the, you know, that wanted to do that,
that would have been signing up for that
qualifier anyway.
That'd be their own.
You're still going to get that sign up
and they don't have to do it.
They don't have to do four extra workouts
on the side right now.
Like when we're trying, it's crazy.
It's, it's too many workouts,
online qualifier workouts for athletes to
be doing.
If they want to do maybe like other
divisions, like intermediate or, um,
masters intermediate masters scaled maybe
that i think you could just still sign
up and then rank like you sign up
for the intermediate division and then you
rank your score based off of other people
that signed up for that division correct
or they could i guess do like for
those divisions you could do a qualifier
but like for the main ones the open
should start
Yeah.
For elite.
And I mean, I think masters,
it shouldn't matter.
You're going to,
that's going to feed out anyway, Larry,
they would get the money.
Like, like I said, like those separate,
when you sign up,
those separate entities would get their
twenty, twenty five bucks,
just as if it's their qualifier.
Fill the pooper,
the open isn't good enough to test to
qualify for a semifinal.
I disagree with that.
And I don't know if we're talking about
NorCal, but like they talked about that.
Like these workouts are,
they want people to be able to do
them in their gyms and there might be
like the time caps might be really long
for an elite,
but they want people to be,
they want anyone to do the workouts and
try to get through them.
And so someone might do a workout that's
capped at twelve and six minutes.
So what?
Who cares?
Um, Vicki says not everyone does the open.
So that plan wouldn't work.
We're going to get into that in a
second.
Yeah.
But this was forced people to do the
open, right?
Well, here's my, here's my thing.
One,
they are kind of forced to do the
open.
If you want to compete in the game
season,
the rules say you have to finish in
the top two thousand for to be able
to go on to the games.
Correct.
If you do not, you don't,
you are not eligible to compete at the
CrossFit Games.
But here's my thing.
And I know everybody gets sick of me
comparing to other sports.
If you are on the PGA Tour and
you are trying to qualify for the US
Open, the British Open,
the PGA Championship, all of those events,
you can't go to the Nationwide Tour and
play three events to qualify into the PGA
Tour Championships.
Right.
You can't go to live and compete at
three events of live and expect that to
get you into the PGA championship.
Right.
I think where we've gone wrong is because
CrossFit's broke and they have all these
third party people and they're letting
them do it however they wish.
It's created it where the season doesn't
make sense.
and here we are back on the same
argument I've had every other year is that
now you have all these caveats to the
ways to get to the CrossFit games.
Even if you do have to do the
open in the quarters to get to the
games,
You have all these other avenues or things
you have to do to qualify in to
get yourself to these places.
And I think the more exceptions we allow
to happen, the more confusing it gets.
And these exceptions of qualifiers before
the open is just another piece where it's
confusing the season.
Now,
I understand for NorCal and their
community event,
this is the time that they can get
people in where they have time to do
it.
They get a lot of people that do
it too.
Right.
And like their event gets like thousands
of people.
It's like, it's a huge event.
They do a really good job for the
community.
I'm not speaking about NorCal doing a
qualifier for their community event
whenever you want to do it.
But if you are part of the game
season,
then you should all follow the same
structure getting through the season.
Yes.
A hundred percent.
Which I think should start with the Open.
The Open should start the season, yes.
Because you're like, oh crap,
which one should I be doing right now?
You're not even thinking about that right
now, but you're like, oh,
these two or three are happening in
January.
I need to be in shape in January
to get through to be able to do
these semifinals.
So we have NorCal qualifiers already out
there.
Do we want to do we even want
to look at the workouts?
We're already forty seven minutes into
this thing.
What?
Five of them.
Six words, I think you started them,
Carolyn.
Yeah, I've done two of them so far.
I did the Bushwacker one today.
How was that?
It was fun.
My butt sore today.
Yeah.
Right.
When I finished, I was like, OK,
I've definitely not done like weighted
lunges for speed.
I was like, well, this is,
this is going to be my warmup today.
Cause I had burpee.
I had,
I literally had burpee shuttles in my like
conditioning.
I'm like, okay, I'll just do this.
I woke up this morning and my glutes
and butt is sore.
Great.
No, not looking forward to that.
The bushwalkers were like,
they weren't like difficult to do.
Like they're cool.
Like, I don't know.
Like I thought it was fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think the burpee shuttle run is
actually a cool movement.
I like it.
I like that a lot.
Can we go through an order?
What's the first one?
Barbell chipper.
Okay.
Ten snatch, twenty clean, thirty deadlift,
forty bar-facing burpees,
and then back down.
What's the weight on that?
Ninety-five, one thirty-five.
Okay,
so just ninety-five all the way through.
Just get through it.
I might try to do that one.
I think I can move ninety-five.
grippy yeah that sounds gnarly grippy yeah
and then here is workout two and three
um one rep shoulder to overhead five
minutes to establish one rep shoulder to
overhead and then crash bang six minute
mark and wrap of five four three two
one two three four five four three and
so on a front squat ring muscle up
What's the weight on that front squat?
I think it's one twenty five I have
in my head.
They don't have it on here.
I think it's one eighty five one twenty
five.
That's what I have in my head right
now.
OK, I haven't done that one.
I'm dreading it.
Not for part two, for part one.
Yeah.
And then we have this one.
It is number four.
Uh, grip and rip three rounds for time,
thirty pull ups,
three hundred foot traveling double
unders.
This time cap is very tight.
Is it?
I haven't done it.
I haven't done it,
but I've had a few friends that have
done it.
Um, just tight time, tight, tight,
tight time.
So I might try that on tomorrow.
We have double unders in class.
I've been doing double unders,
but traveling gives me a little bit of
apprehension.
So we'll see.
I might, I might.
play with that one tomorrow they get your
engine fired up they they had traveling
double unders last year yeah last year the
year last year the year before i think
it was last year i did their qualifiers
last year as well yeah um and they
had the traveling double unders there and
yeah it was a gets your engine for
sure but for me i liked it because
it's less double unders than if it would
be i don't know yeah right two hundred
um larry says number two fire of course
because it's a one rep max tristan said
the weight was two twenty five one fifty
five on that front squat definitely is it
okay i will definitely not be trying that
one that's too heavy for me right now
all right eric mackie says you could buy
if you can do the pull-up one that
could be a fun one for you okay
yeah
And then we have five erosion,
twenty eighty hundred calorie row and then
twenty toes to bar, twenty box jump overs.
This I think I normally would like,
but like looking at this,
I do not want to do this.
It's so long.
I think I'm going to do it.
I think I'm going to do it on
Tuesday just because Monday is my day off.
So I feel like I want to do
it on Tuesday.
Jumping is not great for me.
I've been trying to play with box jumps.
And maybe that's what you saw Scott.
I did the a hundred burpee box jump
overs for time.
I am not quick at them.
I just cautious.
Um, Northern,
and this is number six snowball effect,
twelve, twelve minute cap, five hundred,
five hundred feet burpee shuttle,
two hundred and fifty double dumbbell
walking lunge, thirty wall balls,
thirty bushwhackers,
thirty hand stand shoulder taps.
It was fun.
When I heard handstand shoulder taps,
I thought as a former judge,
that would be a judging nightmare.
Yeah.
Cause you can be close,
but you're not really touching.
Yeah.
It's hard to tell.
And sometimes people's shirts are like,
especially as you're inverted,
the shirt gets like nice and loose and
hard to see depending on what angle you
are from the camera.
So I totally agree with that.
Well,
and even in live judging to get to
the angle,
to see that on both shoulders is really,
really hard.
Yeah.
And even the Bushwhackers like full
extension on some of those is going to
be tough,
but I guess those are fine to look
at.
It's kind of like a dumbbell snatch.
So what are these burpee shuttles?
I haven't seen them.
So one rep is you go down burpee
and then you run to the other side.
That's a rep.
And then you would go down burpee.
You run back to the other side.
So one rep is a twenty five foot
burpee plus a run.
Gotcha.
So you go down.
As bad as I thought it'd be.
I was picturing some kind of high rocks
thing.
And then five hundred feet is twenty
twenty total.
So you're going ten down and backs.
All right.
There we go.
All right.
So how did you do your lunges?
Farmer.
I mean.
It's just easier to pick them up and
start moving.
Yeah.
did you do no i did farmer as
well okay but i was thinking like at
a certain point if i should go to
a i couldn't throw him up there yeah
but i just didn't want to i i
don't know uh crossfit cross fat nails
this uh the burpee shuttle sound like a
high school football punishment for sure
so much i probably did it five hundred
times um
I wonder how many no reps will be
given because of that.
If that workout goes to video review,
it's the, uh, the association of judges,
um, that are,
I think reviewing the videos.
Okay.
At the end of their twenty-five foot lane,
doing those that you're not going to be
able to see in video review.
Eric Mackey says I'm not against the
evolution of the sport,
but too many outside the standards.
think that's what they are though like if
you're going to norcal you know what you
get and i'm okay with it as long
as it's not a surprise yeah you know
you're gonna get uh different movements
there yeah the kneeling they don't they
won't change from that like that's that's
who they are that's who they've always
been like they're gonna have they're gonna
explore different movements
they were on Savan on Friday,
Ben and Blair,
and they are very unapologetic about this,
that they believe that that is how
CrossFit was designed.
That's how it started.
And they do not want to vary from
that.
They think too many people have,
and they want to keep it as old
school as possible.
See,
I like different movements personally that
people have in practice and then just go.
Yeah.
Like I liked the reverse lunge wall balls
last year.
I liked those two.
I heard a lot of people actually liked
them more than the regular wall ball.
Well,
there's an aspect of balance and timing
and like just throwing, coming back.
Like the flooring was a little bit weird
because the mat and where the floor like
was higher.
So it was easier for shorter people to
have like smaller reverse lunge,
but the actual movement I liked.
So in addition to all this being out
now,
I know French Throwdown is doing their
qualifiers.
LATAM has started theirs.
But Mayhem already sent out invites for
semifinals.
We haven't had the Open.
We haven't had quarterfinals.
And so we don't even know if people
are eligible to compete in the season,
and we're sending out invites to a
semifinal competition.
Bingo.
Yep.
And they are using the rogue leaderboard
for their list.
What's crazy is like theoretically right
now, I'm just thinking out loud.
Someone could do their open workouts,
get it submitted, but be injured.
Not even, not even do it.
Let's be honest.
Their video is not getting reviewed in the
open,
get an invite to a semifinal and then
continue their season in June.
Like that's crazy.
Did we lose you, Scott?
I think so.
He's trying to reset it.
I hope people don't do that and they
actually do the workouts.
You know people can do that.
Or could do it.
Tristan,
are you going to have to go just
because it's going to piss you off or
you need to go and you don't want
to miss us?
Yeah.
But I don't think that they need to
do the quarters.
I think you just have to finish a
certain amount in the open.
So someone... Right?
It's not about quarterfinals where you
finish to qualify for the games.
It's just the...
You just need a certain amount in the
open.
True.
Top two thousand or whatever in the open
and then... And then... For quarters.
Well...
I suppose if you already did your
qualifier or you got invited to Mayhem,
yeah.
As long as you're top two thousand...
So you could be injured or take your
off season right now and just, yeah.
Just interesting how the season is.
I missed half,
missed half of your conversation.
So I'll just let you guys talk.
Which is why I wish the videos,
like you would post them in the open
to avoid that kind of stuff.
Because I feel people do that.
Like I've had to submit my videos for
the open every single year,
like almost all of them.
And yeah,
I know that like people that are in
the two thousand or whatever,
like they don't they can just do whatever
they want because their videos will never
even get asked.
So, yeah.
Scott, do you know the answer to this?
I don't know if this is on Holly's.
If someone hypothetically was invited to
mayhem and then next pencil,
pen and sharpie.
I know.
Hold on.
But I'm not really going in that.
But did the open finished fifteen hundred
and then didn't do quarters or semis.
Didn't do quarters.
Well, yeah, didn't do quarters.
So didn't do semis, but got, you know,
got fifteen hundred in the open,
went to mayhem.
And are they good?
I, I don't know.
I don't know.
I'd have to look at the rule book.
I would hope that you would have to
call.
You would have to participate in
quarterfinals to go to the games.
Yeah, you'd think so.
I would hope,
but I don't look it up.
You have to do quarters.
And quarters you need to put your video
public, right?
Or no?
It's quarters that you have to be top
two thousand.
Okay, that makes more sense anyway.
So you don't have to do anything in
the open except make it to quarters.
You just need to be top twenty-five
percent, top two thousand in quarters,
and then technically you could just go to
the semi that you were at.
You don't have to do anything.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
Well,
the open matters to the twenty-five
percent mark.
But yes, Tristan.
Yeah.
So on that kind of,
we're going to do the next pencil, pen,
or sharpie.
And that is,
if you are not participating in the
CrossFit Games season,
you should not be able to participate in
the semifinals that occur during the
season.
Sharpie.
Sharpie.
Sharpie.
Everyone in the chat is going to Sharpie
this.
You can compete at the intermediate
division, the scale division there,
the master's division.
No route to the actual games.
No.
You cannot influence the leaderboard
whatsoever.
Why would you go to a semis?
Yes,
you can go to NorCal's open division or
whatever,
but why would you go to a semi
if you don't want to participate in the
cross?
I don't understand.
Yeah, no.
You can go there for other divisions.
That's fine because they host other
divisions,
but you cannot go in the path of
the games if you are not doing the
open, if you're not doing the quarters.
Absolutely not.
No more of that, which is like, yeah.
Which we'll see with Mayhem what will
happen.
Andrew Stan said,
compete in the RX division, but not elite.
Yes.
Morris Sharpie, another graved in stone.
Like some will go for prize money, right?
But no, that's not okay.
What about someone who's already
qualified?
Should they be able to go to a
second one?
I don't think so.
No,
it gets to move on to the next
person.
This is Tristan's on it right here.
I disagree with this.
What?
You completely disagree with this.
Well, okay.
Your actions from last year should have no
bearing on this season.
I suppose if you were, like,
hurt and couldn't, but...
I don't care what the reason is.
People sit out for any number of reasons.
How many pro athletes retire and come
back?
How many...
No, he's saying you shouldn't get a...
If you didn't do the season last year,
why are you getting an invite to Mayhem
right now?
You need to do qualifiers.
You need to do the Open and get
yourself earning.
I still think it's a slippery slope if
you're factoring things on last season.
If they sign up for the Open this
year,
they should be able to get an invite.
Yeah, if they earn it, but like...
That's kind of the problem with Mayhem
Bean doing this right now.
By sending it out now,
you can't restrict people because you
don't know.
Well, they should lose their spot.
Somebody should be on backfill if somebody
doesn't do the open.
I don't agree with using last year's
thought last year's twenty five season is
over.
Twenty six season should just be based on
what happens in twenty six,
which is why I hate that wrote that
they're using the rogue leaderboard.
Right.
In historical.
In historical numbers to to make the
invites.
I hate a lot of this stuff about
the season.
It's because their semifinal is the
earliest one, right?
So they're trying to get their field
established before.
Yeah.
Um...
I agree, Tristan.
I think you shouldn't get a free invite.
You should have to do the like you're
going to be in one of the later
semis, I guess.
You're going to have to do the open.
You're going to have to do a qualifier
or be top twenty to get your seat.
You shouldn't just get a free invite.
Why are you taking twenty twenty or
additional invite?
And if you don't qualify,
then you're booted.
And the next person on the list comes
on.
Perfect.
I'm fine with that.
Like, yes, I'm fine with that.
If you're a conditional invitee because we
need to make sure that you're going to
get there.
That's one thing.
Right.
So.
So here's what I had Holly do.
And I just, small sample size,
I had her take everybody out of the
Mayhem Classic that did not participate in
the game season last year.
And did it affect who got tickets to
the games?
And it did on the women's side.
If you took out everybody from last year
that did not participate in the season,
Emily Rolfe gets her ticket to the
CrossFit Games at Mayhem.
Who competed at AHAM?
Oh, Paige, right?
Paige, the girl from Latin America.
Victoria?
Was it Victoria Campos?
Victoria Campos.
I think there was a couple, actually.
Okay.
She has a spreadsheet.
I just don't have it pulled up because
of... That's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, it would have essentially,
if you take out everybody,
it forced a three-way tie on the women's
side with Fee, Emily, and Abby.
And because Emily won more events,
Emily would have actually won.
Wow.
The tiebreaker.
Fee would have finished second and Abby
would have finished third.
Wow.
So by allowing people that aren't
participating in the season into that
event, Emily never got her ticket.
agree yeah she tried to come back for
an orcal but her elbow wasn't ready right
like she was there but she didn't i
don't think she did two events one one
for sure possibly two and she still
finished top ten there which is crazy yeah
holly confirmed it was victorian page okay
yeah
And I know I'm sure that Elisa's wins
in Europe probably affected it,
but I didn't want to get put too
much on Holly for something that happened
a year ago,
especially when we proved the point in the
first shot.
Grace, I know they're big draws,
but this is a season.
No other professional sport allows people
not participating in the season to come in
to take away prize money from other
athletes.
If someone said it well here,
like if you're trying to qualify for the
Olympics,
you don't invite just someone to the
Olympic trials or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember reading that somewhere there.
Uh, Tony,
I saw you at a super chat.
I'll get to that in a second.
I swear.
There's just a ton, ton in here.
Um,
So confused with all the different
leagues.
If someone won Rogue as a champion to
automatic make semifinals or finals in
CrossFit or vice versa,
maybe it's not a dumb question, but no,
they do not get an automatic bid.
Now for the semifinal, see,
this is where it gets confusing.
Here's this guy that's new to CrossFit
trying to understand the system and NorCal
has four automatic bids.
If you are the male or female winner
of crash or the male or female winner
of their own event last year,
you get an automatic bid and bypass
everything.
Yeah.
Like I like that,
like they're champions of the year before.
I'm okay with that.
The crash one to me is kind of
weird.
Like,
It was never announced prior to Crash.
Prior to Crash's qualifications,
that that would also be part of the
following season.
Something like that is... I don't know.
It shouldn't happen.
But it's their concept.
Tony did put in a super chat.
What are your thoughts about these team
leagues like United grid grid league?
I think that's a discussion for another
night.
I'll throw it because you put it in
here.
I'll put it on the agenda for next
week.
And we'll talk about the team aspect of
CrossFit,
but I think that's a much lengthier topic
than we have time for tonight,
but thank you so much for the five
bucks.
We truly appreciate it.
Yeah.
This is because no one is in charge
of oversight.
I'm going to say the elephant in the
room.
Lazer died at the games.
CrossFit wanted to take a step back and
assume no responsibility or as least
amount of responsibility as they could the
next season.
And so they stepped back from every
semifinal and every aspect of the CrossFit
game season until the actual games.
That took away so much liability from them
by doing so.
And it put the ball in everybody else's
court to do everything for them along the
way.
And because of that,
they had to allow these third-party
entities to be able to do things the
way they wanted to do them.
And now we're in this huge pickle.
Yep.
And it sucks that because of a fear
of liability, we have this...
messed up season well and partially
liability and like i said partially the
venture capitalists trying to cut costs
wherever they can and make their books
look better they've offloaded the costs of
these things and yeah it's a problem it
doesn't do anything good for the sport and
grace says yeah they couldn't afford to
keep funding those events too i think
that's the easy public answer to give
And maybe they couldn't, I don't know.
But I do,
I think a lot of it came out
of the liability from the previous season.
So, yeah.
Andrew said,
I'm fine with other people running the
semis,
but there has to be some cohesion and
oversight.
Do you think we're all doing grace this
year?
Heavy grace.
Heavy Grace at like seven semifinals.
Maybe that's why everybody had the elbow
and shoulder injuries.
Yeah.
Because everybody did Heavy Isabel twenty
seven times.
CrossFit is low key timid to scare any
more dollars or voices away.
It's a great point, too.
Do you think that we will have a
repeated workout that goes around the
semifinals or multiple?
I pray no.
I kind of think no.
Like a weekend like NorCal who's at the
same time as Syndicate and Torian maybe?
Like would they have some sort of
three-way arrangement that everyone that's
going through that weekend is doing a
certain workout?
Like I wouldn't be surprised.
The real question you're asking is,
is Mayhem going to program everything
again this year?
Right.
That's what you're asking.
They won't matter.
Or JR.
I think JR is.
Yeah, JR is picking up some extra.
Mayhem or JR.
Yeah, but then it'll collab with Angelo.
So it's one big cohesive group.
But speaking of Mayhem,
thank you to Mayhem for sending me a
barbell this week.
That was sweet.
Is that what you got for the everyday
hero?
Awesome.
They like sent, they,
they messaged us a while ago or addresses.
It said,
they said that they had something for us
and then got a nice barbell this week.
So that's awesome.
But it doesn't mean that I think they
should program every semifinal,
even though they treated us very,
very nicely.
Vicky says,
I still think there should be a checkbox
on open registration to separate those who
say they want to be in contention for
the games.
So video review would be easier to
decipher and be required for open,
et cetera.
I think that's a good idea.
Great idea.
Yep.
I mean, it can be an extra five,
ten bucks there.
And I think you could even add a
donation thing if you want to donate to
the season.
Like why wouldn't they do that in the
registration, right?
Like sign up for twenty knowing that the
money goes towards the game season.
If you add another thing,
if you'd like to increase your your
donation to the season or support the
season.
How they get another cross that I don't
think you get to accuse anybody of
secretly being somebody else.
We've been trying to figure out who you
are for a year.
All right.
So last pencil, pen,
or Sharpie is it's a good one.
Pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
Pat Vellner will do the twenty twenty six
game season.
Pencil.
I think pen.
I mean, CrossFit is secretly me.
I think he wants to.
I think he's,
and Pat showed in the past,
he's able to rehab properly.
We are, we are tight on time.
Again, I think,
I think he's just going to play with
like, he's in a role.
How bad is his injury?
So what Jamie and Caroline are referring
to is that it was announced on Pat's
Instagram account that he suffered a torn
rotator cuff at the finals in Copenhagen
for the WFP.
He is doing rehab right now.
The dude went to the games with a
torn bicep or something?
Yeah, in twenty eighteen.
The man is a machine and he's great
at rehab.
I think he can finish top twenty five
percent in the open with one one arm.
I agree.
Oh, for sure.
And if you look at the video of
him rehabbing, he has full mobility,
the arm.
It's just I don't know what kind of
strength.
He said the only thing that's really
limiting is doing the exact same movement
that caused the injury,
which is snatching.
Right.
So.
Here's why I do think he's going to
do it.
Sharpie.
I'm a Sharpie on this one.
I see a lot of pens.
Sten's a pen.
Clock is a pencil.
Paige Smith is a pencil.
Eric Mackey's a pencil.
I don't even know what CrossFit's a
pencil.
Have you seen the story time with Pat
stuff he's been putting out where he's
going back and talking about like his
favorite moments in the CrossFit game
seasons or CrossFit games and going
through those moments?
You don't reminisce about all that stuff
if you're not making one final run.
Like I, and that,
that's my Sharpie belief right there.
It's all on.
You don't look back at your career.
I think he wants one more shot to
go through the season before he retires.
Yeah, I agree.
I think he wants to, my pen,
my pen is because I'm not sure like
the fate program will favor him to make
it out of semis, but yes,
I think he's going to make a run
at it for sure.
Larry with the harsh, unfortunately,
I just don't care.
Uh, he's fine, but I never,
but never got it done better guys compared
to now.
I love how, like in our society,
if you don't win the whole thing,
you didn't get it done.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Like seeing Hunter talk about Dale and
like basically say he's not even good in
the sport is why like wild to me.
Yeah.
Like I grew up in the eighties.
Dan Marino was the greatest quarterback to
ever play at that point in time in
the NFL.
He never won a Superbowl.
It doesn't mean he didn't get it done.
Right.
Like.
Yeah.
Lots and lots of pencils.
It's crazy.
Jody says, yeah, those are great posts.
They're great posts.
Pat is a great storyteller.
Yes.
Like when he does his like event by
event recaps at the games,
they are hilarious.
They make me laugh.
He's a great storyteller.
I want the game season back to being
complete again.
We as fans are being cheated when we
don't get the epic matchups like Laura
versus Tia or like Pat versus Justin or
those types of things.
I want everybody back together again.
So that's what I want.
I don't care what happened in the past.
Let's move forward.
We're never going to accomplish anything
and grow in the sport as separate
entities.
It's got to be done as one.
And I want everybody back together
competing against each other.
Yeah.
I think Laura might not, might be out.
So
Well,
I'm not saying that's going to happen.
I'm talking about Pat and his posts make
me believe that he's coming back.
I'm with you.
And he's really kind of nestled in with
the boys interrupted.
I agree.
Like those two things,
like he's kind of like uncle Pat to
them and kind of becoming a mentor to
them.
And I think he relishes that role.
Yeah.
Yes, Eric.
Kumbaya.
Let's all sing it.
He's one of the funniest guys in the
athlete area to chirps, nicknames, jokes.
He's really well liked by like all of
the competitors.
He's probably like, honestly,
the most popular,
one of the most popular guys.
One of my favorite moments ever is when
Pat got pissed about the sled drag at
semifinals.
And Jamie wanted to get an interview with
him.
And he said, yes,
as long as you run with me.
And Jamie ran.
If you were in Pasadena or not in
Pasadena, you don't know.
The athlete area and the venue were two
separate buildings.
Jamie ran down the street with Pat getting
the interview while running.
We were walking.
He just said I had to move along
with him.
Yeah.
No problem.
I'm up for it.
Larry, truth is, Scott,
when they quit on CrossFit,
I kind of quit watching them.
You're entitled to like and dislike any
athletes you want.
I just think the sport is better when
we're all together.
Yeah.
Ken says mentor.
He's never won three or four.
He's never won in three of the four
boys interrupted have won four.
He can be a mentor in life without
being a mentor in the sport.
Yeah.
Like, my gosh, you guys.
Ken and Larry, like, playing hardcore.
He also has, like, five games medals,
I think, for, like.
Yeah.
Four or five.
He's won Rogue multiple times.
He's won Waterpalooza multiple times.
And one of the most popular guys in
the sport ever.
Yeah.
I would venture to say if you asked
any one of those four boys,
if they would take advice from Pat on
an event,
they would one hundred percent take advice
from Pat.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I think we let our preconceived notions
cloud our judgment sometimes.
Yeah.
Okay, so that is that.
We are really tight on time now.
So, Bethany Flores gave birth.
Oh, did she?
Yes,
her and Randy welcomed in a baby boy.
So...
Congratulations to her.
She's been a friend of the show for
a long time and a friend to me
for a long time.
Super happy for her and Randy really
psyched about that.
And then I'm going to finish on this
one.
The U S department of health this week
or make America healthy again,
announced a brand new food pyramid in the
United States where they are flipping it
upside down.
And they are waging war against added
sugars and processed carbohydrates.
Something that people in the fitness
industry thought would never, ever, ever,
ever happen, happened this week.
Your reaction to that statement.
We don't know where it's going, right?
It's just the announcement.
We don't know what it means.
But to hear a government official of any
kind make those statements,
is huge in my opinion i mean i
it's exciting i i it's long overdue i'm
glad somebody with some authority put
something out there we'll see we'll see
what that how that trickles down like
curious to see what it'll do to like
lunch programs um
Do they have lunch programs in the States?
Like for all the schools?
Yeah,
schools have to follow the adopted food
pyramid.
Yeah.
And because they changed the food pyramid,
they have to follow the new one.
And my mom has been a lunch lady
for forty years.
So I know all about that.
Yeah.
I mean, it's to us,
it's like common sense, right?
It's like what we've been doing,
but it's it.
Yeah.
It'll be very interesting to see the
trickle down.
I can only imagine what some of the,
yeah,
like big car is going crazy right now.
I can only imagine there's gotta be some
heads at some of these companies that are
like, no,
So Lex jumps in a schools need funding
before they can follow the food,
food pyramid.
I'm sure.
For us, like we,
I run a breakfast program at my high
school.
So I do all of the ordering of
the food and we get like,
almost fifteen thousand dollars that i go
get in government funding for breakfast
programs and almost every school has this
and we can only have certain foods that
we order and it has to have like
a green check mark that says that it's
part of the uh nutrition school programs
and it can't have a certain i think
every food item needs to have less than
five or six grams of sugar in it
um and like every every breakfast and like
we have to have protein that's put out
some sort of fruit it could be also
a like go-go squeeze or something like a
pouch like but like we have we have
like all like these standards but yeah
we're it's it's nice that like our
government funds quite a bit the breakfast
programs like those are really really
important in schools across that says it's
canadian dollars though so only like two
hundred bucks yeah um
Here's where I think there is a change,
Eric.
Healthier food is more expensive.
There has to be a way to make
it more available to all and cheaper.
That's the point of the government saying
these are the necessary foods.
It then makes those foods things that you
supplement and that you give funding to
grow and to have available.
That's why this flip is important.
It makes those things cheaper.
Um, I think it's important.
I think they also need to mandate more
physical education in schools.
See,
I grew up in a time where like
we had phys ed like three times a
week, um, for an hour at a time.
Yeah, we have it every day,
but only grade nine is the last year
that it's mandatory to do phys ed grade
ten, eleven, twelve.
They no longer like it's not a requirement
to take phys ed, which is crazy.
We had to have it every year.
We could get a waiver if we were
an athlete.
Because we were practicing our sport five
days a week.
But you only got a waiver during that
season.
So if you only played one of the
three seasons,
you only got a waiver for that season.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Um, one more super from Tony.
Have you ever thought about doing the
Spartan super or beast?
They're running sandbags, monkey bars,
pegboard, log lift.
So I've done like warrior dashes and, um,
other versions of that in the past.
And I really enjoyed them.
So, yeah, I'm all about them.
Anything that gets you out.
I love, like, obstacle course stuff.
Yeah.
There was, like, a Tough Mudder, like,
world mile before.
I love that.
The top of the CrossFit pyramid is play
other sports.
And that's a great one to go out
and do as something else.
Yeah.
All right,
I think the comments are coming in so
fast to keep up with,
but I think this is a good place
to end it tonight.
It's been an amazing sports weekend.
I did not sleep at all this weekend
because of the Bears win,
and so I have my pre-op appointment for
both my biopsy and my sinus surgery this
Tuesday,
and I have to go get some blood
drawn tomorrow morning,
so I'm going to call it for the
night.
I have the frostbite relay,
the one in Holland.
Not the country, but the city.
Yeah.
Holland, the city.
Yeah.
Holland, Michigan over there on the water.
So that's Sunday.
I will very likely not be on on
Sunday.
Yeah.
I don't know when the bears are playing
next weekend.
So everybody stay tuned.
Yeah.
I mean,
my bears don't make the playoffs very
often.
They don't win very often.
I'm going to make sure that I can
enjoy that game.
Cool.
So if it's Sunday night,
we'll probably delay or go another night.
Okay.
It hopefully won't be as cold this year
in Holland, Michigan.
It looks like like twenty two degrees.
I don't even know that it's going to
be like crazy snow or anything.
I think I think we might have a
decent year.
If you weren't with us last year,
Jamie had icicles coming off her nose.
Yeah.
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I will be if they play Sunday night.
I just,
I don't think they've announced the
schedule yet until this game's done
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